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	<title>Comments on: Phrogramming&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: JTK</title>
		<link>http://fadedmirror.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/phrogramming/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>JTK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem, glad to help.  If you want to send me a free copy .... just kidding!! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem, glad to help.  If you want to send me a free copy &#8230;. just kidding!! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no scoop just yet on the next big release... 

Watch the forums for some teasers over the next few weeks and months... e.g.  http://phrogram.com/forums/thread/6889.aspx

And to follow up on Walt&#039;s comments... I wish it was a &#039;cash in&#039; ;-) Then we could afford to hire a large team of developers to get 3.0 shipped sooner - we are still a small companty.

Thanks for the great feedback - hopefully it will encourage other folk to purchase.

Feel free to email me if you have any  questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no scoop just yet on the next big release&#8230; </p>
<p>Watch the forums for some teasers over the next few weeks and months&#8230; e.g.  <a href="http://phrogram.com/forums/thread/6889.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://phrogram.com/forums/thread/6889.aspx</a></p>
<p>And to follow up on Walt&#8217;s comments&#8230; I wish it was a &#8216;cash in&#8217; <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Then we could afford to hire a large team of developers to get 3.0 shipped sooner &#8211; we are still a small companty.</p>
<p>Thanks for the great feedback &#8211; hopefully it will encourage other folk to purchase.</p>
<p>Feel free to email me if you have any  questions.</p>
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		<title>By: JTK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I didn&#039;t mean &quot;cashed in&quot; to be derogatory in any sense -- anything worth doing well is worth getting paid for.  ISTM that Phrogram has a LOT of support behind it -- that&#039;s one of the things that impressed me the most.  This is not a &quot;toy language&quot;, but a full-fledged development environment.  That sort of thing does not come for free.

I strongly encourage everyone to buy a copy of Phrogram for the technically minded kid in their life instead of a high-priced videogame.  The benefits of the first will long outlast the second!

Thanks for chiming in, Walt!  What&#039;s the scoop on the new version coming out Real Soon Now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I didn&#8217;t mean &#8220;cashed in&#8221; to be derogatory in any sense &#8212; anything worth doing well is worth getting paid for.  ISTM that Phrogram has a LOT of support behind it &#8212; that&#8217;s one of the things that impressed me the most.  This is not a &#8220;toy language&#8221;, but a full-fledged development environment.  That sort of thing does not come for free.</p>
<p>I strongly encourage everyone to buy a copy of Phrogram for the technically minded kid in their life instead of a high-priced videogame.  The benefits of the first will long outlast the second!</p>
<p>Thanks for chiming in, Walt!  What&#8217;s the scoop on the new version coming out Real Soon Now?</p>
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		<title>By: Walt Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 06:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick comment about going commercial to cash in. (LOL)
For the record KPL did go commercial with the release of Phrogram but to say it was to cash in is not exactly true, originally we tried to support the development and the KPL community with a donation scheme, this makes me smile just think about it. 
Talk about (LOL), people love to use good programs (300,000 downloads in just the first 3 months) that help them in their endeavors but for some unknown reasoning think that financially supporting such a worthy cause is up to someone else, a few educators and understanding people did donate (very few).
We were putting 60 hour weeks for free for the first 2 year of the release of KPL / Phrogram and it got to the point that we had to make a decision (driven by our spouses); abandon this labor of love (KPL / Phrogram) or find a way to make enough to move it forward and support the community that loves it without starving.
In all I think you’ll agree that at the price Phrogram is a true deal in today’s economy, we can now afford to support it and move it forward and eat at the same time.
Regards,
Walt Morrison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick comment about going commercial to cash in. (LOL)<br />
For the record KPL did go commercial with the release of Phrogram but to say it was to cash in is not exactly true, originally we tried to support the development and the KPL community with a donation scheme, this makes me smile just think about it.<br />
Talk about (LOL), people love to use good programs (300,000 downloads in just the first 3 months) that help them in their endeavors but for some unknown reasoning think that financially supporting such a worthy cause is up to someone else, a few educators and understanding people did donate (very few).<br />
We were putting 60 hour weeks for free for the first 2 year of the release of KPL / Phrogram and it got to the point that we had to make a decision (driven by our spouses); abandon this labor of love (KPL / Phrogram) or find a way to make enough to move it forward and support the community that loves it without starving.<br />
In all I think you’ll agree that at the price Phrogram is a true deal in today’s economy, we can now afford to support it and move it forward and eat at the same time.<br />
Regards,<br />
Walt Morrison</p>
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		<title>By: JTK</title>
		<link>http://fadedmirror.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/phrogramming/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>JTK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the science project, but I had forgotten about the computer simulation!  The TI-99/4A had that power supply behind the switch on the right-hand side.  That sucker got so hot, that after people started complaining, the TI folks suggested that people use it as a coffee cup warmer....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the science project, but I had forgotten about the computer simulation!  The TI-99/4A had that power supply behind the switch on the right-hand side.  That sucker got so hot, that after people started complaining, the TI folks suggested that people use it as a coffee cup warmer&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dad Klopcic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dad Klopcic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Tad.  Of course space is limited, but you left out programming the TI-99.  In particular, I remember the three node finite element heat conduction program you wrote for your 8th(?) grade
Science Project.  (I don&#039;t think you called it that - but in retrospect...)  That had to represent some sort of step in your computer-literacy evolution.  If nothing else, it was certainly an ironic one:  The TI-99 routinely overheated while running your heat conduction program ;&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Tad.  Of course space is limited, but you left out programming the TI-99.  In particular, I remember the three node finite element heat conduction program you wrote for your 8th(?) grade<br />
Science Project.  (I don&#8217;t think you called it that &#8211; but in retrospect&#8230;)  That had to represent some sort of step in your computer-literacy evolution.  If nothing else, it was certainly an ironic one:  The TI-99 routinely overheated while running your heat conduction program ;&gt;)</p>
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